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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Pam, was this recorded? If so, can you remind me how to access? Thanks, Gita</span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> psycgrandrounds SUNY Upstate Grand Rounds Reminder: When Ungrieved Sorrow Pervades Personality: Working with Depressive and Self-Defeating Patterns 3/19/26 *VIRUTAL ONLY*</span></p>
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<p align="center" style="text-align:center; background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; color:black">Our next Grand Rounds at the Department of Psychiatry SUNY Upstate will take place on:</span></b></p>
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<b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt; color:black">Thursday, March 19th,</span></u></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; color:black"> from 12:30 pm until 2:00 pm via Zoom only.</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; color:black"></span></p>
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<b>Nancy McWilliams, PhD, ABPP</b>, Psychoanalyst, Visiting Professor Emerita, Rutgers Graduate School of Applied & Professional Psychology</span></p>
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<b><i><span style="font-size:11.5pt; color:#C82613">*APPROVED Psychologist, Social Work & LMHC CEUs*</span></i></b><span style="font-size:11.5pt; color:#C82613"></span></p>
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<b><i><span style="font-size:11.5pt; color:#C82613">Please fill out the attached evaluation forms and return to Pamela Le@
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<u><span style="font-size:11.0pt; color:black">DESCRIPTION:</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt; color:black"> Situational stresses interact with personality patterns, presenting clinicians with complicated combinations of grief, mourning, and depressive
and self-defeating (also called masochistic) dynamics. Because neither “Depressive Personality Disorder” nor “Self-Defeating Personality Disorder” is included in the DSM or ICD, official taxonomies offer little help to therapists in distinguishing between
various painful self-states and framing psychotherapy accordingly. Dr. McWilliams will differentiate conceptually between depression and mourning, between anaclitic and introjective depression, and between depressive and self-defeating personality patterns,
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<u><span style="font-size:11.0pt; color:black">Faculty disclosure:</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt; color:black"> Dr. McWilliams has no relevant financial relationships with ineligible companies. </span></p>
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<p style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#666666">Educational Coordinator</span></b></p>
<p style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#666666">Grand Rounds & REACH Coordinator</span></b></p>
<p style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#666666">Upstate Medical Psychiatry</span></b></p>
<p style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#666666">719 Harrison St. Bldg TU4</span></b></p>
<p style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#666666">Syracuse, NY 13210</span></b></p>
<p style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#666666">Phone (315)464-7185</span></b></p>
<p style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:#666666">Fax (315) 464-3282</span></b></p>
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