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<p class="MsoNormal">HI all<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Just to fill in some info about the 2017 salary equity study. We did have an outside expert do it. But it’s a challenge because faculty get their funds from different sources. The Dean does have a total salary that he approves, so used
that info. We did it by department, since departments vary so much in terms of responsibilities, salary, etc. When we found something that looked off we asked the chair to explain it- often they were able to do so given the different responsibilities of faculty,
e.g., some women were working fewer hours. A few adjustments were made. But the chair was still expected to pay attention to this issue and provide opportunities to all faculty (not just women) if they were being “underpaid.” It was a useful process and keeps
the chairs attentive to the issue, but I wouldn’t expect dramatic differences to emerge, especially in the basic sciences for faculty who get their full salary from the state.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Happy to discuss further-<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Paula<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Womeninmed <womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Victoria Meguid<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 27, 2023 4:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ann S. Botash <BotashA@upstate.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [womeninmed] Fw: Women in medicine on the national news<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for letting people know. The 2017 one was the one I had previously mentioned. So glad it is being updated. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Do you have the 2022 data for Upstate female vs male faculty. Clinical vs Basic Science, and levels? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That would be interesting to know. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Many thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">This thread has prompted me to let you know that our office is working with the NCOM dean's office and others to perform a salary equity study. A study was performed previously (2017), results
were shared, and adjustments made at that time. We are contracting with a third party to assist with the work and once the contract is completed, we will begin. Once we have some data, we can address any issues and formulate a plan.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Also, as another prompt for today's AAMC DEI workshop, our speaker is the AAMC Director of Gender Equity, Diana Lautenberger. I hope you will consider attending. The last session in the series
(January 31<sup>st</sup> at 4pm) is on the topic of gender equity.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Womeninmed <<a href="mailto:womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu</a>> on behalf of Nienke Dosa <<a href="mailto:DosaN@upstate.edu">DosaN@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 26, 2023 9:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sylvie Destian <<a href="mailto:DestianS@upstate.edu">DestianS@upstate.edu</a>>; Victoria Meguid <<a href="mailto:MEGUIDV@upstate.edu">MEGUIDV@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [womeninmed] Fw: Women in medicine on the national news</span>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It’s important to have a work place that has strategies in place for attaining pay equity, a way to track progress, and a mechanism for addressing concerns when they arise. Let’s not endure these discouraging
experiences alone. Thank you Vicki and Sylvie for your advocacy!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It’s a global issue (article in today’s NYT):
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.nytimes.com/2023/09/21/health/community-health-worker-pay.html?unlocked_article_code=J52yTWaqS1CUOCOmI0xevIY3eUyhKX7NFZnoreb5AR1Qb0MBpG5QbRSDyowJD3F52Dc8KnJA5ZcedZ7Idd8YhT1IzJhuAA-2DajysfqQN_mSQ9NLc7ibZ39FvJUrMDFjEQeKqfWcUnxTyObo2DZZ0C8PS2teSc7FU2All6h_fxV0Wsczto99W-4LxE-o0We9RQe758rropLRq7fT96W8chumTXNytW-lihtLlS5AUMdxjRo7WZ2kPEgsG2iK6kUI4oH1ntyR1VE0bxIhLvSh4LoAvdPoc9Vk9LJGOKE_yv1yVau3aV3n25t5ZzZfgaIn7uMD-j1GNWZMG9Pr_rTHUWWr2zo&smid=url-share__;!!GobTDDpD7A!MNZ96o6A3-o1epLl0tljPBCtiV--59lAW9DOwBWzOSVIWg0NIUWn_qXhY2um7UJhPMSna49y87aUPzRpNUXYWJl4oQ$">https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/21/health/community-health-worker-pay.html?unlocked_article_code=J52yTWaqS1CUOCOmI0xevIY3eUyhKX7NFZnoreb5AR1Qb0MBpG5QbRSDyowJD3F52Dc8KnJA5ZcedZ7Idd8YhT1IzJhuAA-2DajysfqQN_mSQ9NLc7ibZ39FvJUrMDFjEQeKqfWcUnxTyObo2DZZ0C8PS2teSc7FU2All6h_fxV0Wsczto99W-4LxE-o0We9RQe758rropLRq7fT96W8chumTXNytW-lihtLlS5AUMdxjRo7WZ2kPEgsG2iK6kUI4oH1ntyR1VE0bxIhLvSh4LoAvdPoc9Vk9LJGOKE_yv1yVau3aV3n25t5ZzZfgaIn7uMD-j1GNWZMG9Pr_rTHUWWr2zo&smid=url-share</a>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Nienke P. Dosa, MD, MPH</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Upstate Foundation Professor of Pediatrics</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Golisano Center for Special Needs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">SUNY Upstate Medical University</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Syracuse, NY 13210</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">p. 315-464-6395 f. 315-464-6398</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="xmsonormal"><a href="mailto:dosan@upstate.edu"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#0563C1">dosan@upstate.edu</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Womeninmed <<a href="mailto:womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu</a>> on behalf of Sylvie Destian <<a href="mailto:DestianS@upstate.edu">DestianS@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 3:01 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Victoria Meguid <<a href="mailto:MEGUIDV@upstate.edu">MEGUIDV@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [womeninmed] Fw: Women in medicine on the national news</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Vicki, I wish you luck!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On Sep 26, 2023, at 7:31 AM, Victoria Meguid <<a href="mailto:MEGUIDV@upstate.edu">MEGUIDV@upstate.edu</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I agrée. We have to keep working for it. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I was told “ Your husband ( a surgeon) has a good salary, why are you worried?”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Admittedly that was in the 70’s!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I was outraged, which I think is one of the things that spurred me on to try to do what I could for parity etc at Upstate!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Victoria Meguid MD</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Nothing’s really changed in 35 years. There’s always a “reason” men make more money. The most preposterous one I was given when I asked for equal pay at USC was “ well he has a 500K mortgage”. The chair
failed to consider that the male radiologist was married to a plastic surgeon. It will not change until the people in charge are predominantly women because men will always want to make more.
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 25, 2023 12:49 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Women in medicine on the national news</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
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Could you post this to WIMS<br>
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<h1><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Female doctors earn 74 cents for every male physician, says president of Women in Medicine</span><o:p></o:p></h1>
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