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Maternity leave (or lack thereof) may be relevant to this exploration as well. When I hear “some women were working fewer hours”, I wonder if this reduction in hours and thereby pay is a reflection of workarounds to address lack of benefits relevant to childbirth
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 27, 2023 6:24:22 PM<br>
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<div dir="auto">also related (probably not possible), I don't think anyone would reject at least a 10 percent bump to cover the insane inflation the last few years.
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<div dir="auto">many studies emphasize women do more "hidden" labor often missed by classic measures. Starting with covering inflation at least means all the hidden work isn't counted for even less?! Although I honestly don't know what statistics on this would
convince the powers that be. I am happy to hunt through peer reviewed work to help if anyone has suggestions!</div>
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<div>The only way to learn the real disparities would be by obtaining the total salaries. Not sure if that is even feasible. <br>
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<b>To:</b> Jessica L. Ridilla <RidillaJ@upstate.edu>; Victoria Meguid <MEGUIDV@upstate.edu>; Ann S. Botash <BotashA@upstate.edu><br>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">HI Jess</span></p>
<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The statistician first looked at whether gender (or race/ethnicity) predicted salaries within the department, and did not find that they did. He was then able to give us a number (I think it was the mean)
for each rank and we looked at each salary that was more than one SD below the mean, and pursued those cases individually. We did NOT look at salaries that were above the mean as the focus was on correcting possible underpayment.
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It is true that researchers get salary funds from grants that go to different funds. In most departments, basic scientists’ salary is their state base-but some departments are now drawing from grant dollars
to augment salaries. I’ve been away from this for several years, so Ann Botash is the person who would know how things are now being handled.</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 27, 2023 4:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paula Trief <TriefP@upstate.edu>; Victoria Meguid <MEGUIDV@upstate.edu>; Ann S. Botash <BotashA@upstate.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu<br>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Avenir Next"">Thanks for this response. I appreciate it!!
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Avenir Next"">I think it is more than a bit of a misnomer that basic science faculty get their full salary covered from the state. While this is technically accurate, grant earning faculty
generally raise a substantial percentage of their “salary” that goes into other university funds. These percentages can vary by department and circumstances. Perhaps there is a rubric or different strategy should be considered/explored? What was the criteria
that “something looked off”? </span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Womeninmed <<a href="mailto:womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu</a>> on behalf of Paula Trief <<a href="mailto:TriefP@upstate.edu">TriefP@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:27 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Victoria Meguid <<a href="mailto:MEGUIDV@upstate.edu">MEGUIDV@upstate.edu</a>>, Ann S. Botash <<a href="mailto:BotashA@upstate.edu">BotashA@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [womeninmed] Fw: Women in medicine on the national news</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">HI all</span></p>
<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Just to fill in some info about the 2017 salary equity study. We did have an outside expert do it. But it’s a challenge because faculty get their funds from different sources. The Dean does have a total
salary that he approves, so used that info. We did it by department, since departments vary so much in terms of responsibilities, salary, etc. When we found something that looked off we asked the chair to explain it- often they were able to do so given the
different responsibilities of faculty, e.g., some women were working fewer hours. A few adjustments were made. But the chair was still expected to pay attention to this issue and provide opportunities to all faculty (not just women) if they were being “underpaid.”
It was a useful process and keeps the chairs attentive to the issue, but I wouldn’t expect dramatic differences to emerge, especially in the basic sciences for faculty who get their full salary from the state.</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best,</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Victoria Meguid<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 27, 2023 4:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ann S. Botash <<a href="mailto:BotashA@upstate.edu">BotashA@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a><br>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you for letting people know. The 2017 one was the one I had previously mentioned. So glad it is being updated. </span></p>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Do you have the 2022 data for Upstate female vs male faculty. Clinical vs Basic Science, and levels? </span></p>
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<p class="x_x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">This thread has prompted me to let you know that our office is working with the NCOM dean's office and others to perform a salary equity study. A study was performed previously (2017), results
were shared, and adjustments made at that time. We are contracting with a third party to assist with the work and once the contract is completed, we will begin. Once we have some data, we can address any issues and formulate a plan.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
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Dosa <<a href="mailto:DosaN@upstate.edu">DosaN@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 26, 2023 9:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sylvie Destian <<a href="mailto:DestianS@upstate.edu">DestianS@upstate.edu</a>>; Victoria Meguid <<a href="mailto:MEGUIDV@upstate.edu">MEGUIDV@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a>><br>
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<p class="x_x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It’s a global issue (article in today’s NYT):
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt; color:black">Womeninmed <<a href="mailto:womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu</a>> on behalf of Sylvie Destian <<a href="mailto:DestianS@upstate.edu">DestianS@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 3:01 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Victoria Meguid <<a href="mailto:MEGUIDV@upstate.edu">MEGUIDV@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [womeninmed] Fw: Women in medicine on the national news</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Vicki, I wish you luck!</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_xmsonormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">On Sep 26, 2023, at 7:31 AM, Victoria Meguid <<a href="mailto:MEGUIDV@upstate.edu">MEGUIDV@upstate.edu</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I agrée. We have to keep working for it. </span></p>
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<p class="x_x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I was told “ Your husband ( a surgeon) has a good salary, why are you worried?”</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Admittedly that was in the 70’s!</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I was outraged, which I think is one of the things that spurred me on to try to do what I could for parity etc at Upstate!</span></p>
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<p class="x_x_xmsonormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Nothing’s really changed in 35 years. There’s always a “reason” men make more money. The most preposterous one I was given when I asked for equal pay at USC was “ well he has a 500K mortgage”. The chair
failed to consider that the male radiologist was married to a plastic surgeon. It will not change until the people in charge are predominantly women because men will always want to make more.
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 25, 2023 12:49 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Women in medicine on the national news</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
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Could you post this to WIMS<br>
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<h1><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Female doctors earn 74 cents for every male physician, says president of Women in Medicine</span></h1>
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