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I wanted to share this article and invite you all to psych department grand rounds this thursday on gender equity in academic medicine (see below).</div>
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thnx<br>
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<b><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; margin: 0px; letter-spacing: -0.4pt; color: rgb(0, 45, 98);" class="ContentPasted2">Our next<span class="ContentPasted2"> </span><span data-markjs="true" class="mark7auapcxta ContentPasted2" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="" style="margin:0px">Grand</span><span class="ContentPasted2"> </span><span data-markjs="true" class="markhnyrcf6q3 ContentPasted2" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="" style="margin:0px">Rounds</span><span class="ContentPasted2"> </span>at
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<b><u><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; margin: 0px; letter-spacing: -0.4pt; color: rgb(0, 45, 98);" class="ContentPasted2">Thursday, October 19<sup class="ContentPasted2">th</sup>, 2023</span></u></b><b><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; margin: 0px; letter-spacing: -0.4pt; color: rgb(0, 45, 98);" class="ContentPasted2"><span class="ContentPasted2"> </span>from
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<b><span style="border: 1pt none windowtext; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; margin: 0px; padding: 0in; color: rgb(0, 176, 240);" class="ContentPasted2">Link to join Zoom session: </span></b><a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://upstate.zoom.us/j/824931563__;!!GobTDDpD7A!PH13l_WUa5EpUb-lQG6GVsNCZu5SyyTUnebqvKYn8lMK_b4hQilrRWt4dqf5oUGACJFOk3LFdsmEmxo7w3QHSs8Arctf$" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="0" style="margin: 0px; text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(5, 99, 193);" id="OWAc12952e3-6edf-ede3-0390-99faa01f81ef" class="OWAAutoLink ContentPasted2"><b><span style="border: 1pt none windowtext; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; margin: 0px; padding: 0in; color: rgb(0, 176, 240);">https://upstate.zoom.us/j/824931563</span></b></a><b><u><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; margin: 0px; color: rgb(0, 176, 240);"></span></u></b></p>
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<b><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; margin: 0px; color: rgb(0, 176, 240);" class="ContentPasted2">Meeting ID: 824 931 563</span></b></p>
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<u class="ContentPasted2">DATE</u>:<span class="ContentPasted2"> </span><b class="ContentPasted2">October 19<sup class="ContentPasted2">th</sup>, 2023</b><span class="ContentPasted2"> </span> TIME:<span style="margin: 0px; color: rgb(51, 102, 255);" class="ContentPasted2"> <span class="ContentPasted2"> </span></span><b class="ContentPasted2">12:30-
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<b><span style="margin: 0px; color: rgb(0, 176, 240);" class="ContentPasted2">Gender Equity in Academic Medicine: Towards a culture of greater inclusion & belonging</span></b></p>
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<b><span style="margin: 0px; color: rgb(0, 176, 240);" class="ContentPasted2">Nayla Khoury, MD,<span class="ContentPasted2"> </span></span></b>Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Chief of Child and Adolescent Outpatient Psychiatric Service, Norton College of
Medicine at SUNY Upstate Medical University<b><span style="margin: 0px; color: rgb(0, 176, 240);"></span></b></p>
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<b><span style="margin: 0px; color: rgb(0, 176, 240);" class="ContentPasted2">Wanda Fremont, MD,<span class="ContentPasted2"> </span></span></b>Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Distinguished Service Professor, Norton College of Medicine at SUNY
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<b><span style="margin: 0px; color: rgb(0, 176, 240);" class="ContentPasted2">Ann Botash, MD,<span class="ContentPasted2"> </span></span></b>SUNY Distinguished Teaching Professor, Senior Associate Dean for Faculty Affairs and Development, Vice Chair for Educational
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(CARE), Norton College of Medicine at SUNY Upstate Medical University<b><span style="margin: 0px; color: rgb(0, 176, 240);"></span></b></p>
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Gender disparities in academia persist despite women and men attending and graduating medical schools in equal proportions for the last two decades. We review current data from qualitative and quantitative studies to understand trends, such as women leaving
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1. Understand current national and local landscape regarding gender equity.</p>
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2. Learn national and local initiatives to address gender equity gaps in academic medicine.</p>
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Faculty disclosure: Drs. Botash, Khoury, and Fremont have no relevant financial relationships with ineligible companies.</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 28, 2023 11:45 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [womeninmed] Women in medicine on the national news</font>
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Thank you for this important discussion and sharing of resources and ideas. I wonder if this work (salary evaluation at Upstate) is or can be inclusive of College of Health Professions, CON, and Graduate Studies as well?</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 28, 2023 10:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Patricia M. Kane-Popp <KanePM@upstate.edu><br>
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<div style="line-break:after-white-space">I was talking about this with my sister, who works at American Express, a few months ago. She commented that AmEx does a twice-yearly survey AND adjustment of company salaries to address the possibility of gender-based
(or other) salary gaps forming. I know pay adjustments are tiny or non-existent in our system, but it seems like this is at least data that could be collected in case an alternate universe opens up where salaries can be increased in some way :)
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Also. the book "The No Club" is excellent and addresses the same issues of women spending time on non-promotable tasks at a higher rate than men.</div>
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<font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Womeninmed <<a href="mailto:womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA1f4a06ec-bceb-0150-08f5-d40503e7f583" class="OWAAutoLink">womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu</a>>
on behalf of Winter Berry <<a href="mailto:BerryW@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAf411458d-fd23-120a-0469-6a0b1e884424" class="OWAAutoLink">BerryW@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, September 27, 2023 6:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jessica L. Ridilla <<a href="mailto:RidillaJ@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA0bf5eb4b-f573-2279-ebb4-9363fb7b9cff" class="OWAAutoLink">RidillaJ@upstate.edu</a>>;
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<div dir="ltr">To the topic of statistics on hidden/unpaid/non promotable work- I’d recommend the book Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez. <span></span></div>
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on behalf of Jessica L. Ridilla <<a href="mailto:RidillaJ@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA78110114-0c61-9537-5e00-e52e23197b1c" class="OWAAutoLink">RidillaJ@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, September 27, 2023 6:24:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Zulma Tovar Spinoza <<a href="mailto:TovarSpZ@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA8d2dbe6e-f042-d647-548e-acd65d6ca5a4" class="OWAAutoLink">TovarSpZ@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA9e115408-67db-8963-e892-a53936f2cbdd" class="OWAAutoLink">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAa9e0eafc-9784-54c7-3516-53c45b9f9f09" class="OWAAutoLink">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a>><br>
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<div dir="auto">also related (probably not possible), I don't think anyone would reject at least a 10 percent bump to cover the insane inflation the last few years.
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<div dir="auto">many studies emphasize women do more "hidden" labor often missed by classic measures. Starting with covering inflation at least means all the hidden work isn't counted for even less?! Although I honestly don't know what statistics on this would
convince the powers that be. I am happy to hunt through peer reviewed work to help if anyone has suggestions!</div>
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<div class="x_x_x_x_gmail_quote">On Sep 27, 2023 5:49 PM, Zulma Tovar Spinoza <<a href="mailto:TovarSpZ@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAda4bf0cb-a8ca-89c3-0447-20565cf4c427" class="OWAAutoLink">TovarSpZ@upstate.edu</a>>
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<div>The only way to learn the real disparities would be by obtaining the total salaries. Not sure if that is even feasible. <br>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Zulma Tovar-Spinoza MD IFAANS<br>
Professor of Neurosurgery, Neurology and Pediatrics<br>
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Fax: <a href="tel:(315)%20464%204415" data-auth="NotApplicable" dir="ltr" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAeb87870a-3332-ddaf-d9a7-49ece7b6b2bc" class="OWAAutoLink">(315) 464 4415</a></span></div>
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I recently attended the WiM summit in Chicago where this issue was discussed. I am so happy to see this conversation happening at our institution and glad to hear a study is going to look at this more closely!</div>
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on behalf of Paula Trief <<a href="mailto:TriefP@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAf244ba27-f034-a087-fea3-1054132db3cb" class="OWAAutoLink">TriefP@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, September 27, 2023 4:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jessica L. Ridilla <<a href="mailto:RidillaJ@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAd04fdc48-e47f-b58c-716f-8c22a3a69bb4" class="OWAAutoLink">RidillaJ@upstate.edu</a>>;
Victoria Meguid <<a href="mailto:MEGUIDV@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAd05b073e-c183-a3e3-0006-bdb22f772a43" class="OWAAutoLink">MEGUIDV@upstate.edu</a>>; Ann S. Botash <<a href="mailto:BotashA@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA00a45514-c5eb-8afb-45a6-b8d91a060ed8" class="OWAAutoLink">BotashA@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA807c9ac2-1d74-5cfb-e5e3-5a59a670ee06" class="OWAAutoLink">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAe82fc3fe-b821-5c10-8d52-58d2ac4abf73" class="OWAAutoLink">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a>><br>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">The statistician first looked at whether gender (or race/ethnicity) predicted salaries within the department, and did not find that they did. He was then able to give us a number (I think it was the mean) for each rank and we looked
at each salary that was more than one SD below the mean, and pursued those cases individually. We did NOT look at salaries that were above the mean as the focus was on correcting possible underpayment.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">It is true that researchers get salary funds from grants that go to different funds. In most departments, basic scientists’ salary is their state base-but some departments are now drawing from grant dollars to augment salaries.
I’ve been away from this for several years, so Ann Botash is the person who would know how things are now being handled.</span></div>
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<b><span style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jessica L. Ridilla <<a href="mailto:RidillaJ@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAa855b1d3-3a30-e546-6a73-05a8c3b9e1af" class="OWAAutoLink">RidillaJ@upstate.edu</a>><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, September 27, 2023 4:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Paula Trief <<a href="mailto:TriefP@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA36aefcb5-0425-9314-e8cf-2e86b6525c6c" class="OWAAutoLink">TriefP@upstate.edu</a>>; Victoria
Meguid <<a href="mailto:MEGUIDV@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA6761c534-061b-92fb-2c26-6a3d4ce2b9a6" class="OWAAutoLink">MEGUIDV@upstate.edu</a>>; Ann S. Botash <<a href="mailto:BotashA@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAb4738fbb-f32f-a1a3-f91f-261e9d5f0104" class="OWAAutoLink">BotashA@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA215c07d9-d034-5814-e5c8-f8e1fab24c44" class="OWAAutoLink">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Avenir Next"">Thanks for this response. I appreciate it!!</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt; font-family:"Avenir Next"">I think it is more than a bit of a misnomer that basic science faculty get their full salary covered from the state. While this is technically accurate, grant earning faculty generally raise a substantial
percentage of their “salary” that goes into other university funds. These percentages can vary by department and circumstances. Perhaps there is a rubric or different strategy should be considered/explored? What was the criteria that “something looked off”?<span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div>
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<b><span style="font-size:12pt">From:<span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12pt">Womeninmed <<a href="mailto:womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA16506a9d-fa64-4861-678a-0f7609fd8a5c" class="OWAAutoLink">womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu</a>>
on behalf of Paula Trief <<a href="mailto:TriefP@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAbd9d452e-952b-989d-7454-4346723c059c" class="OWAAutoLink">TriefP@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:27 PM<br>
<b>To:<span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Victoria Meguid <<a href="mailto:MEGUIDV@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA04b16dac-ec02-1798-77b7-34ad846d5158" class="OWAAutoLink">MEGUIDV@upstate.edu</a>>, Ann
S. Botash <<a href="mailto:BotashA@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAe9b8ecf7-658a-ccf8-5346-39c5a96bd134" class="OWAAutoLink">BotashA@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:<span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAd21c320c-7171-eaa8-2fb0-26983084f580" class="OWAAutoLink">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA67cb1f47-3bf8-c797-9466-4fe3a83d1c8b" class="OWAAutoLink">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a>><br>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">HI all</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">Just to fill in some info about the 2017 salary equity study. We did have an outside expert do it. But it’s a challenge because faculty get their funds from different sources. The Dean does have a total salary that he approves,
so used that info. We did it by department, since departments vary so much in terms of responsibilities, salary, etc. When we found something that looked off we asked the chair to explain it- often they were able to do so given the different responsibilities
of faculty, e.g., some women were working fewer hours. A few adjustments were made. But the chair was still expected to pay attention to this issue and provide opportunities to all faculty (not just women) if they were being “underpaid.” It was a useful process
and keeps the chairs attentive to the issue, but I wouldn’t expect dramatic differences to emerge, especially in the basic sciences for faculty who get their full salary from the state.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">Happy to discuss further-</span></div>
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<b><span style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Womeninmed <<a href="mailto:womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAa90d1b4f-47ef-3929-dd11-ec921371d06e" class="OWAAutoLink">womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu</a>><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, September 27, 2023 4:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ann S. Botash <<a href="mailto:BotashA@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAd84c6162-af2c-db81-5fbc-37a64483adef" class="OWAAutoLink">BotashA@upstate.edu</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [womeninmed] Fw: Women in medicine on the national news</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">Thank you for letting people know. The 2017 one was the one I had previously mentioned. So glad it is being updated. </span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">On Sep 27, 2023, at 12:50 PM, Ann S. Botash <<a href="mailto:BotashA@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA2ecd659d-dcb0-bd93-3831-b607ba74beec" class="OWAAutoLink">BotashA@upstate.edu</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:12pt">This thread has prompted me to let you know that our office is working with the NCOM dean's office and others to perform a salary equity study. A study was performed previously (2017), results were shared, and adjustments made at
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<b><span style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Womeninmed <<a href="mailto:womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA13fc3e25-cf8a-b289-acee-db66d2701950" class="OWAAutoLink">womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu</a>>
on behalf of Nienke Dosa <<a href="mailto:DosaN@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA3fc262ef-edde-8788-736b-f220e49e308b" class="OWAAutoLink">DosaN@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, September 26, 2023 9:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sylvie Destian <<a href="mailto:DestianS@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAdf52c71d-5b76-5195-ddf1-0445a22e6b5d" class="OWAAutoLink">DestianS@upstate.edu</a>>; Victoria
Meguid <<a href="mailto:MEGUIDV@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA6d16d5f5-17cb-4cce-2e6d-50e7e7f23d5e" class="OWAAutoLink">MEGUIDV@upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA600e156f-05cd-19b4-8c7f-45f30267c475" class="OWAAutoLink">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA58b58805-ecfc-6f50-7b4f-6d12e500f971" class="OWAAutoLink">womeninmed@lists.upstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [womeninmed] Fw: Women in medicine on the national news</span><span style="font-size:11pt"></span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">It’s important to have a work place that has strategies in place for attaining pay equity, a way to track progress, and a mechanism for addressing concerns when they arise. Let’s not endure these discouraging experiences alone.
Thank you Vicki and Sylvie for your advocacy!</span></div>
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<b><span style="font-size:12pt">From:<span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12pt">Womeninmed <<a href="mailto:womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA85c7efc2-1211-0de6-785e-e0b8443664f7" class="OWAAutoLink">womeninmed-bounces@lists.upstate.edu</a>>
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<b>Date:<span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 3:01 PM<br>
<b>To:<span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Victoria Meguid <<a href="mailto:MEGUIDV@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA48367b4c-503c-c868-0c1e-e9396340897b" class="OWAAutoLink">MEGUIDV@upstate.edu</a>><br>
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<b>Subject:<span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [womeninmed] Fw: Women in medicine on the national news</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">Vicki, I wish you luck!</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">On Sep 26, 2023, at 7:31 AM, Victoria Meguid <<a href="mailto:MEGUIDV@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWAc9772840-4c9c-e1ee-c88b-8ede83b0f304" class="OWAAutoLink">MEGUIDV@upstate.edu</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">I agrée. We have to keep working for it. </span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">I was told “ Your husband ( a surgeon) has a good salary, why are you worried?”</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">Admittedly that was in the 70’s!</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">I was outraged, which I think is one of the things that spurred me on to try to do what I could for parity etc at Upstate!</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">On Sep 26, 2023, at 1:51 AM, Sylvie Destian <<a href="mailto:DestianS@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA072614cf-5309-cc8d-41c8-51f66ec25ab7" class="OWAAutoLink">DestianS@upstate.edu</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt"> Nothing’s really changed in 35 years. There’s always a “reason” men make more money. The most preposterous one I was given when I asked for equal pay at USC was “ well he has a 500K mortgage”. The chair failed to consider that
the male radiologist was married to a plastic surgeon. It will not change until the people in charge are predominantly women because men will always want to make more.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">On Sep 25, 2023, at 12:58 PM, Sandra Jarvis <<a href="mailto:JarvisS@upstate.edu" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA589ea6f8-58e4-b7e6-d0c1-1d3d3c091063" class="OWAAutoLink">JarvisS@upstate.edu</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Victoria Meguid <<a href="mailto:meguid54@yahoo.com" style="text-decoration: underline; color: purple;" id="OWA6b3c3429-5fef-4e44-976c-ad5830802e9a" class="OWAAutoLink">meguid54@yahoo.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, September 25, 2023 12:49 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="x_x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>[EXTERNAL] Women in medicine on the national news</span><span style="font-size:11pt"></span></div>
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